6 comments on “We really do need to talk about the War

  1. A few minor comments;

    1. The German fear of being labelled anti-semitic is very well founded. From the Munich Olympics to the recent debate over circumcision, Germany’s history is never far from being mentioned.

    You’re right that the wider context and history of Israel-Palestine needs to be discussed and in particular the impact it is still having today, I can’t imagine that debate being led by a German – of any faith.

    2. The ‘slabs’ are awful and so is the statue. They’re both fine examples of all that is wrong with physical memorials. The Jewish Museum on the other hand, is wonderful and not just focussed on the holocaust. Architecturally fantastic, poignant and fascinating. Next time you have a spare afternoon you should go.

    • Thanks for reading the blog and responding.

      I can understand the reasoning about German comments about Israel etc, but isn’t that wrong? I honk Germans have a lot o contribute and wonder if the comments of Bonhoeffer should BR disregarded because he was a German – Germans were victims of a fascist regime and that was over 70’s years ago, when do we move forward ?

      Next time I’m in Berlin I will visit the Museum – but the Topographie of Terror was equally as moving highlighting the suffering of Germans as a whole, not just a section, from 1933 to 1991.

      We forget it wasn’t just the Jews who perished in the Concentration Camps

    • Sorry, but the circumcision debate has NOTHING to do with anti-semitism. It has to do with individual rights and no citizen should be able to force another citizen to go through that procedure without consent.

      • I’m not suggesting otherwise. I’d ban circumcision in a heartbeat and the judge in question was unquestionably brave to address the topic.

        However, its undeniable that Germany’s history had an impact on the debate and the rush to legislate to protect circumcision.

      • Hi

        Could i suggest that the debate about circumcision illustrates my point (though I did not use it) in that immediately after the Länder said circumcision was a violation of rights the Jewish & Muslim community immediately invoked the anti-semitism card – forcing he Bundestag to pass emergency legislation.

  2. You’re right, of course, that its wrong the Germans don’t feel able to be part of that debate. There are few countries that have a better understanding of what it takes to heal those sorts of divisions.

    We should move past it and encourage greater German participation in this particular debate but I’m not sure either Germany or Israel are ready for that yet.

    The Topography of Terror was great and the focus on others who were persecuted is important. The plight of homosexuals, political dissidents and religious minorities is too often written out of history. As I say though, the Jewish Museum has much more to it than the holocaust and has great anthropological value. More like the Pergamon museum than the Topography – or something similar outside Berlin 😉

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